tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post9175157750497307315..comments2023-07-03T06:51:05.962-07:00Comments on O Dock: I Want DetailsO Dockerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08674140306304705852noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-26137015320062904192009-11-14T00:32:09.654-08:002009-11-14T00:32:09.654-08:00We use hand signals at home quite regularly.
Kri...We use hand signals at home quite regularly. <br /><br />Kris: Greg, please take care of those dishes. <br /><br />Greg: I'm busy.<br /><br />Kris: [hand signal]<br /><br />Or when Greg is backing the trailer into the driveway and Kris is guiding him.<br /><br />Greg: [yelling] "I can't see you when you're directly behind the trailer. You have to be able to see the mirrors.<br /><br />Kris: "Can you see me now?" [hand signal]The O'Sheashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14887851548539021097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-71793508609495032782009-11-12T20:01:28.317-08:002009-11-12T20:01:28.317-08:00bowsprite, are you psychic, or have I at some poin...bowsprite, are you psychic, or have I at some point mentioned Pat's broken arm? (I note that on this thread I mentioned merely "broken bones.")Carol Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07201269435839112134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-79187341648325138432009-11-12T15:42:36.609-08:002009-11-12T15:42:36.609-08:00what is a sailor with a broken arm?
someone with ...what is a sailor with a broken arm?<br /><br />someone with a speech impediment.<br /><br />(ok, i changed it. it isn't the same when it's cleaned up. Let's go back to your trip to Italy...)bowspritehttp://bowsprite.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-24031725876699062222009-11-12T14:00:54.213-08:002009-11-12T14:00:54.213-08:00Edward, why not rejoin the fray and show us all ho...Edward, why not rejoin the fray and show us all how it's done?<br /><br />One post a week, that's all we ask.<br /><br />My boat's on an inside slip, so you'd only spot it if you were really lost.<br /><br />Will have it hauled on Monday if I don't suffer a relapse of this plague I've had.<br><br>O Dockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674140306304705852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-813629023775698412009-11-12T13:55:21.206-08:002009-11-12T13:55:21.206-08:00Anyway, be glad you went out of the top of your ga...Anyway, be glad you went out of the top of your game, rather than just weathered away into the depths of nothingness.<br /><br />"Yeah, I remember the old days, when the superblogger was around...really grandpa?! "Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10787377470200331937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-50473547298792508262009-11-12T13:52:58.271-08:002009-11-12T13:52:58.271-08:00Time ( blogging) waits for no one...The Rolling St...Time ( blogging) waits for no one...The Rolling Stones"<br /><br />O-Dude's boat is I believe still on the hard.Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10787377470200331937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-61799356769498483882009-11-12T13:44:29.350-08:002009-11-12T13:44:29.350-08:00It's amazing how much the blogging world has c...<br><br /><br><br />It's amazing how much the blogging world has changed since I used to blog.<br /><br />BTW, I sailed right by O Dock last weekend and still can't find his durned boat.<br /><br /><br><br /><br>EVK4https://www.blogger.com/profile/02797338920913749383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-86146973650351523882009-11-11T13:24:16.602-08:002009-11-11T13:24:16.602-08:00Tillerman, You guessed our secret but no, O Docker...Tillerman, You guessed our secret but no, O Docker and Klove Hitch are not Graeme and Janna Cawrse Esarey (Janna Cawrse Esrey being the author of a book called something like The Motion of the Ocean: 1 large boat, 1 incredibly talented bloke, 1 wife of the incredibly talented bloke, and a woman's search for time to stick all her wedding photos into albums). <br /><br />Curb Your Enthusiasm -- We are more the Larry and Cheryl David of the sailing scene. You know, with O Docker being anal retentive and all.Klove Hitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-67566088117368927842009-11-10T22:19:19.652-08:002009-11-10T22:19:19.652-08:00Bonnie, funny you should mention.
We got some kay...Bonnie, funny you should mention.<br /><br />We got some kayaks (entry level, floating around in flat water, kayak-shaped pool toy type kayaks) a few years ago, but first we tried out a double for about five minutes (not Joe Rouse's kind of double, which would have been a much better idea).<br /><br />Actually, the try-out took only about 30 seconds and it took us four and a half minutes to get out of the thing. We could see that if we got a double, it wouldn't be long before there'd be video of us on the six o'clock news.<br /><br />Carol Anne, I'll bet they sold the Potter when they found out there wasn't enough room below for their cat.<br><br>O Dockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674140306304705852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-61740158965732183452009-11-10T21:50:37.522-08:002009-11-10T21:50:37.522-08:00Have I mentioned double kayaks here yet?
I reall...Have I mentioned double kayaks here yet? <br /><br />I really would like to give this a better answer & hope to later this week, when it's not past my bedtime & I'm actually feeling tired after a bad round of insomnia. <br /><br />But double kayaks have a reputation among kayak instructors and guides. They say they are either marriage boats, or divorce boats. In general, it's interesting to have a couple in your class (whether it's interesting-challenging or interesting-delightful depends a lot on whether this was something they both really wanted to do, or whether one dragged the other). Doubles just exaggerate that. It is amazing how the underlying dynamics of a relationship come out when you turn a couple into a floating Siamese twin, hand them two paddles & give 'em a goal. <br /><br />It takes cooperation, give-and-take, and trust in each other to paddle a double well. <br /><br />If they get that, and pull it off, it's positively exhilerating. Between the extra waterline length & the power of two people working together, a double is a lot faster than the same 2 people in a pair of singles.<br /><br />If they don't? Oy gevalt. You just don't want to be around what happens then. Unfortunately, if you are their coach or guide or any combination thereof, you do not have the option of suddenly remembering that you need to be at the dentist in half an hour!bonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04794351142636136626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-3659561853786194512009-11-10T20:45:55.952-08:002009-11-10T20:45:55.952-08:00And speaking of husband-wife trust issues, I suspe...And speaking of husband-wife trust issues, I suspect there was something of that sort behind a recent ad in the Albuquerque newspaper for a West Wight Potter. The ad mentioned that the boat was "only sailed once!"<br /><br />Verification word: exhorgic. Is that the quality of triggering a spewing forth words?Carol Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07201269435839112134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-52110675264961396092009-11-10T17:02:32.708-08:002009-11-10T17:02:32.708-08:00I think it's time to move this conversation aw...I think it's time to move this conversation away from this dead horse, and on to something more exciting. Let's say the next topic should cover....oh, I don't know....something like.....POTTERY!!!! You could also talk about glazes, I'm partial toward chocolate ones.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00087089319937016247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-1427348629791027072009-11-10T13:59:10.105-08:002009-11-10T13:59:10.105-08:00Of course, when I'm hopping back and forth bet...Of course, when I'm hopping back and forth between the cockpit, mast, shrouds, and bow trying to get the bin to pull out and get the special toggle knot to hold onto the other bin, free halyard and sheets, get the spinnaker out of the bin, pull the halyard without dumping the chute in the water, get the jib down, get the chute past the shrouds without tearing or snagging, try to see if the chute is wrapped or not up on top, keep the jib from snagging the guys and sheets, don't forget to bring the guy twing in so I can reach it with the pole end, get the pole clipped on, make sure the topping lift is really on, make sure the guy isn't hanging on the forestay, get the pole to go forward, pull on the guy, help with the boom if there's a gybe, re-set the spinnaker twings guy on sheet off, push the pole forward yet again when it slides back, lower halyard temporarily if spinnaker has a wrap up top, help with mast blocks and other downwind settings, adjust guy and pole for proper position and GET THAT CHUTE FLYING NOW!!!!, I might be just a wee tad bit busy for pay much attention even to hand signals. <br /><br />Maybe I should get the special bicylist's sunglasses with rear view mirrors so I can also watch the helm grimacing at me? <br /><br />Maybe I should get the special t-shirt that reads: <br /><br />"This is your foredeck crew speaking. I'm too busy to answer right now. If you want gybe set, hold up one finger. If you want a floating/windward set hold up two fingers. <br /><br />The set will take as long as it takes. Unless I'm rushed or have to figure out a bunch of commands. Then it'll take longer. <br /><br />If you want to offer advice, add two to three minutes to the set time. <br /><br />If you want to send someone brand new to sailing to help with the spinnaker, add five minutes to the set time including the free bonus death roll or broach."Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417115374524861438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-46501971839145147562009-11-10T11:19:29.071-08:002009-11-10T11:19:29.071-08:00(Dagnabbit, I posted and it didn't show up. Tr...(Dagnabbit, I posted and it didn't show up. Trying again. If I end up with 12 different posts, you'll know why.)<br /><br /><b>6p00d83#$%@!</b>, Yes, I'm sure Graeme would LOVE a bottle. The saint. He's got to put up with me.<br /><br />Excuse me, I have to get back to my wedding album...Janna Cawrse Esareyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117095286656236319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-32238212377374039282009-11-10T11:13:55.387-08:002009-11-10T11:13:55.387-08:00After many years, I have learned not to answer for...After many years, I have learned not to answer for Klove Hitch, but only to answer <i>to</i> her.<br /><br />So, I can say only that I am not Graeme. And being somewhat anal myself, like some other bloggers, I actually bothered to read up a bit before venturing out onto the wine dark sea. I discovered that most learned authorities recommended hand signals over screaming, so we have been pretty good about avoiding screaming in most of our waterborne adventures (an upcoming post on O Dock will deal with one notable counter-example, however).<br /><br />We did explore quite a range of common hand signals before learning of the ones the sailing books recommend. On our trips to Italy, we were surprised to discover that many Italians must be sailors, too.<br><br>O Dockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674140306304705852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-26216803988632778072009-11-10T09:18:03.380-08:002009-11-10T09:18:03.380-08:00Wait. Are O Docker and Klove Hitch really Graeme a...Wait. Are O Docker and Klove Hitch really Graeme and Janna? They use hand signals too. In Janna's book (which is called something like <i>The Motion of the Ocean: 1 large boat, 1 incredibly talented bloke, 1 wife of the incredibly talented bloke, and a woman's search for time to stick all her wedding photos into albums</i>) after the "Woman's Sailing" expert told Graeme to let Janna drive the boat into the dock they decided to start using silent hand signals instead of screaming at each other, "<b>REVERSE. REVERSE, GODDAMMIT I SAID RE-VERSE</b>," which is apparently what most married couples do when docking a leadmine (how would I know). Apparently the yelling system is known as "divorce docking".<br /><br />By the way, don't bother to buy Janna's book. Sooner or later I am going to tell all the good stories from it here in O Docker's comments.<br /><br />By the way, that was a joke.<br /><br />This line intentionally deleted by the author.<br /><br><br /><br>Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-16644077259658794932009-11-10T07:24:14.365-08:002009-11-10T07:24:14.365-08:00Carol Anne--Does Pat really need a hearing aid or ...Carol Anne--Does Pat really need a hearing aid or is he just practicing selective hearing? With O Docker it is the latter. To compensate we have resorted to classic street cred hand signals----Klove Hitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-92076192268882336302009-11-10T06:04:23.660-08:002009-11-10T06:04:23.660-08:00The previous post should have been deleted by the ...The previous post should have been deleted by the author because it has a spelling mistake. Anal-retentive people hate spelling mistakes.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-43789555465781789812009-11-10T05:59:11.574-08:002009-11-10T05:59:11.574-08:00Will you excuse me if I actually post on topic?
I...Will you excuse me if I actually post on topic?<br /><br />In Janna Cawrse Esarey's book (which is called something like <i>The Motion of the Ocean: 1 large boat, 1 incredibly talented bloke, 1 wife of the incredibly talented bloke, and a woman's search for time to stick all her wedding photos into albums</i>) the happy couple actually seek some counseling at one point from one of those experts in "Woman's Sailing". I think Graeme was hoping that she will explain to Janna that "sail trim" is not about deciding what color to paint the boat. But the "Woman's Sailing" expert actually tells Graeme that he should let Janna steer when doing things like docking because his greater strength will be more useful doing whatever the non-steerer does when you are docking a leadmine (how should I know) and that Janna is quite smart enough too waggle the wheel.tillermanhttp://propercourse.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-6920627517413648332009-11-09T23:44:35.069-08:002009-11-09T23:44:35.069-08:00Exactly, Carol Anne. What's the harder task in...Exactly, Carol Anne. What's the harder task in tacking a boat, helming or handling the sheets?<br /><br />One of my great discoveries was to let my wife drive through the tacks and to handle the sheets myself. This is one of those things that takes timing and teamwork. Each of you has to feel what the boat is doing, but also what the other crewmember is doing.<br><br>O Dockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674140306304705852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-26545182454786676972009-11-09T23:30:01.355-08:002009-11-09T23:30:01.355-08:00The people who crave pickles at midnight aren'...The people who crave pickles at midnight aren't the drunks ... they're women with, uh, a different condition.<br /><br />One thing related to Pat's post ... when you're single-handing, you generally don't need to worry about communication problems between the helmsperson and the crew.<br /><br />I do wonder whether some of the disagreements between partners while sailing boats would be alleviated by having the woman at the helm. The most spectacular disagreements of this sort seem to happen when the man is driving.<br /><br />Greg, yes, the cocktails that turn things into comedic memories are an essential part of the recipe. We've taken everything from punctured hulls to broken bones and turned them into into comic incidents.Carol Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07201269435839112134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-83883790238878926752009-11-09T23:22:38.993-08:002009-11-09T23:22:38.993-08:00Hmmmm, When I got my first boat, my girlfriend at ...Hmmmm, When I got my first boat, my girlfriend at the time. Loved the boat and being on the water. Even though when on land it was a constant battle on who was in charge, on the water I was the captain. Even after a grounding that left us sitting at 45 degrees for 5 hours, waiting for the tide, or after sea got seasick from the two stroke motor fumes, and we thought we were going to capsize and die n High winds. Plus sailing back in a gale with me being a new sailor she still trusted me to go out. <br /><br />By time I got my second boat and my new wife, I was trained more and my wife has confidence in my ability even though she was new to sailing. Still a bit questioning my ocean sills, but that is growing as well since the last high wind sail we did and the more teaching I do around the Bay.Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10787377470200331937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-60262285943311343812009-11-09T22:41:48.110-08:002009-11-09T22:41:48.110-08:00Bowsprite, I don't care if it's true or no...Bowsprite, I don't care if it's true or not, that is a great story.<br /><br />But what I'd really like to see is one of your watercolors of that 2CV <i>en brochette</i>.<br /><br />What I can't figure out is what <i>cornichons</i> are doing onboard. My LaRousse says those are little pickles, which brings us all the way back to that drunken guy in the first comment who was looking for pickles at midnight.<br /><br />Some days, I can't figure out commenters at all.<br><br>O Dockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674140306304705852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-30897799113376191552009-11-09T22:24:22.990-08:002009-11-09T22:24:22.990-08:00I'm looking for a common thread here, but the ...I'm looking for a common thread here, but the best I can do is Janna's well-oiled sailing machine and Joe's suggestion that we all get well-oiled. Through extensive research, I have discovered that wine definitely tastes better on a sailboat, and it's been the lubricant that has eased many a tough day spent learning how to sail together.<br /><br />Sailing together well just takes time. I still have trouble delegating, but sometimes you just have to let your crew do stuff or they'll never learn how. The jib may not be trimmed the way I would do it, we may not be quite in the groove, but the boat's still moving and we're still on speaking terms. If you're barking orders all the time, you'll end up howling at the moon, all by yourself.<br><br>O Dockerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08674140306304705852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3740572667294775424.post-5763398690027357732009-11-09T18:38:46.189-08:002009-11-09T18:38:46.189-08:00Have you had shot of Michter’s ten-year, Pat? It w...Have you had shot of Michter’s ten-year, Pat? It will make putting the spinnaker into the spinnaker bag an easier task. <br /><br />I wonder, do you think Graeme would enjoy a bottle?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com